Disputatio:Vetus Testamentum

Discussion from Disputatio:Biblia Sacra Vulgata (Stuttgartensia)

the following text comes from the discussione page of Biblia Sacra Vulgata (Stuttgartensia), deleted beacause of [possible] copyright issues, and beacause it was an abandoned project deletion log Added here by --Barbaking (disputatio) 11:44, 21 Iunii 2021 (UTC)Reply

XLI => 41 ? Should be LCI => 151

:I am willing to split this huge page into books. however, the titles seem to have some typos, and I do not know who to correct them. could someone fix them? [[User:ThomasV|ThomasV]] 08:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== A lacking book in the Bible ==

What about the book of Ruth?

What about Osee /Hosea?


== Copyright Issue ==

The Stutgart Bible is copyrighted. 

:Should we replace this copyrighted text with the text from [http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/ The Clementine Vulgate Project], released in public domain?
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:--[[Usor:Antlem|Antlem]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Antlem|disputatio]]) 07:01, 23 Augusti 2018 (UTC)
::Of course if this text is copyrighted, it cannot be published in Wikimedia projects, and it has to be replaced. But another issue, how can a Vulgata Bible of Stuttgart be under copyright? It is an ancient text. --[[Usor:Tn4196|Tn4196]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tn4196|disputatio]]) 14:59, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
:Now that the Vulgata Stuttgartensia is gone from this site, I'd be highly in favour of copying the Bible from the Clementine Vulgate Project here. Let's just not forget to acknowledge its source, as per the Project's (informal) request. I would furthermore include Oratio Manassae and Esdrae III and IV as well, obtained from some other Clementine edition.--[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ser be etre shi|disputatio]]) 02:52, 4 Octobris 2018 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Ser be etre shi}}{{Ping|Antlem}} I support replacing the standard Bible of Wikisource by the one on Vulsearch. I do believe it should and could be done quickly. By the way, for those who might be interested, a [[Biblia Sacra juxta vulgatam clementinam|partial retranscription of an edition of the Clementine Vulgate]] is already on Wikisource; also, [[Vulgata Clementina|this page]] exists and I do not really know its purpose. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 19:44, 8 Octobris 2019 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Ser be etre shi}}{{Ping|Antlem}} if you do not oppose it, I will ask for this page to be deleted and try to put the Clementine Vulgate from VulSearch on Wikisource. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 22:44, 12 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
:::::{{Ping|Veverve}} By all means do it.--[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ser be etre shi|disputatio]]) 22:11, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC)
::::::{{Ping|Ser be etre shi}} I am not really used to how Wikisource works. I am trying to add the VulSearch text to [[Vulgata Clementina]], but as you can see I have had a few problems. Could you provide some help? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 22:44, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC)

==Another missing book==

What about Hosea?


:This text need a deep proofreading, I insert the template '''{{textquality|0%}}'''. Anyone could contribute, inserting a new text with well-known source. --[[Usor:Accurimbono|Accurimbono]] 08:27, 4 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

== Printed and on-line text sources ==

# This text can be found printed in the ''Biblia Sacra Vulgata Editio quinta'':
#*ISBN: 978-3-438-05303-9
#*Author: R. Gryson, B. Fischer, H.I. Frede, H.F.D
#*Publisher: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft
#*Pages: 2032
# On-line sources for this text can be found at:
#* [http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=4 BibleGateway.com]
#* [http://vul.scripturetext.com/genesis/1.htm Biblos.com]
#* [http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/bible.html Thelatinlibrary.com]

--[[Usor:LaosLos|LaosLos]] 07:09, 17 Iulii 2008 (UTC)

:The online texts are different.<br /> This texts and biblegateway.com and biblehub.com/vul/ have incorrect "loquebaturque cum Mosi" (Exodus 33, 9). thelatinlibrary.com has "loquebaturque cum Moyse" which is grammatically correct as cum is used with ablative.

==Still missing==
* Most of Daniel
* 3 Esdras
* 4 Esdras
* Oratio Manassae regis
* Laodiceans
* Psalm 151
* Prologues

[[Specialis:Conlationes/147.72.234.5|147.72.234.5]] 15:35, 28 Iulii 2009 (UTC)

== Divisio ==

Nonne melius est si libros in partes discernimus? Libri cuncti difficiles sunt dum lectio (et capitula iam extant). --[[Usor:Tn4196|Tn4196]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tn4196|disputatio]]) 18:47, 15 Decembris 2013 (UTC)

== Strange redirections and deleting this discussion ==

{{ping|Barbaking}} [[Disputatio:Vetus Testamentum]] and [[Disputatio:The Old Testament (Vulgate)]], both at first discussion pages of [[Vetus Testamentum]], redirected here. I changed this, now [[Disputatio:Vetus Testamentum]] is a discussion page, and [[Disputatio:The Old Testament (Vulgate)]] redirects to [[Disputatio:Vetus Testamentum]].
<br>I think this discussion page - Disputatio:Biblia Sacra Vulgata (Stuttgartensia) - should be deleted since its article was deleted. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:38, 21 Iunii 2021 (UTC)

@Veverve: I have deleted Disputatio:Biblia Sacra Vulgata (Stuttgartensia), and moved its contents here in the box above, to keep them for future reference. Unfortunately someone thought it was a good idea to transclude that page in the discussions of all the subpages of Biblia Sacra Vulgata (Stuttgartensia), so I had to delete those as well... vale, --Barbaking (disputatio) 12:03, 21 Iunii 2021 (UTC)Reply

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